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Lewis francis

Doss seem like a neat device. The biggest problem that I have with DRM is trusting that protected content will always be accessible: It's very cool that Amazon keeps back-ups for you, but what happens to my purchases if Kindle dies in the marketplace?

drmisfors--t

"Amazon's DRM story makes perfect sense to me." Are you out of your mind?? If I buy a CD I can play it on any device I want (home stereo, car stereo, convert to various formats and play on an iPod, Zune, whatever). If I buy a book through Amazon, I can't do anything except read it on my own Kindle. I can't even read it on my home computer (if the Kindle breaks), convert it to another format (in case the Kindle tanks and Amazon drops support), print the book I want, nothing. Do I own it or not?? It's also between difficult and impossible to put your own content on a Kindle. Why would I invest $1000's in a digital book collection that I can't read using anything else, or rebuy books I already own just to get a digital version? Amazon's Kindle is a closed system and a bunch of crap until 1) they UN-DRM the content and 2) allow users to read whatever they want on it. Otherwise you don't own a single thing in this scam. Oh I forgot you have to 'register' your Kindle too. Funny... that's also what Ceaucescu did with typewriters in Romania

Jim Rutherford

Great post Christian! I'm looking forward to trying this when it is available in Canada. It'd be great if it supported PDF out of the box and hopefully we'll see non-experimental conversions soon. Are there may O'Reilly and other tech books available?

Christian Cantrell

drmisfors--t,

Thanks for the candid remarks. I actually don't disagree with much of what you've written. In an ideal world, we would be able to have complete freedom with everything we purchase, whether it's hardware, software, or media.

Saying that Kindle's DRM makes perfect sense to me is different from saying that I think it's perfect, or that I believe it gives me all the freedom I think I'm entitled to. What I mean is that it's simple, straightforward, and frankly more flexible than I thought it would be.

It can certainly be better, but it could also most certainly be worse. Books could timeout. Content could "deactivate" after a certain number of views. Media could only be good for a single Kindle device, forcing you to buy everything again when you upgrade or replace your Kindle. Amazon didn't have to let you sample content. Rather than keeping records of your purchases on their servers which allow you to re-download it whenever you want, Amazon could have told customers that backing up their media was their own problem, and if that media were to get lost, the only option is to buy it again.

Given how bad the Kindle's DRM could be, I tend to think of it as pretty middle of the road. If Amazon had waited until all the parties involved (authors, publishers, customers) were ready for a completely open and DRM-free system, we would probably have to wait at least another 10 years to see anything come out. At least Amazon was able to pull something together, and it's up to the market to determine where things go from here.

Also, keep in mind that media on the Kindle costs less than physical media. I tend to think of the rights that I'm giving up as being proportionate to the amount of money I'm saving. It's true that I can't do anything I want with media purchased through my Kindle, but it's also true that I pay less for it, and it's far more convenient than traditional media. To me, it's probably worth it. Time will tell.

The only statement of yours that I flat out disagree with is this: "It's also between difficult and impossible to put your own content on a Kindle." So far, I've found putting my own content on my Kindle to be very simple. Unfortunately, it doesn't support all the formats I'd like it to, but it supports several common formats, and I believe that other formats will be better supported in the future.

Christian

Christian Cantrell

Jim,

There are currently 4,566 technical titles available for the Kindle. You can view them here:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n_7?ie=UTF8&rs=154606011&rh=n%3A154606011%2Cn%3A156116011

It doesn't look like any are O'Reilly books. I'm hoping Amazon is working with O'Reilly to make their entire library available very soon.

Content availability is definitely the biggest problem with the Kindle right now, but to some extent, it's to be expected this early on. As long as new titles are added on a regular basis, I willing to give them time to expand their offerings.

Christian

pixie

on the contrary I would love to use it for cooking recipes and knitting instructions! I could see it being used very well for either. I can image there are other crafts or hobbies others might have use to put instructions in it as well.

drmisfors--t

Christian, I would be really interested to know about the content you're putting on the Kindle. What are the source formats, are you emailing them to Amazon for auto-conversion, and in particular, are you emailing PDF's? I'd like to scan my own paperback books into PDF format and read them on the Kindle. I've seen mixed feedback on mobileread.com about doing that. Some say no problem, some say the converted files contain errors. Also, can you get content OFF of the Kindle and onto your PC and read it from your PC? I want to have a backup on my home computer. I've also read that if you rename an .azw file to .mobi, you'd be able to open it through the free Mobipocket reader (see mobipocket.com). Thanks for any feedback on that subject. I am dying for an ebook, but I can't do it unless I can convert my own content and read Amazon-purchased content on something else e.g. my home computer (and even print it if I choose).

Michael Long

Actually, the refresh rate is slow. Very slow. That's why it has the separate LCD strip running up the side of the page. No way to make something like a mouse cursor work with eInk.

Cat Faber

pixie wrote: Also, can you get content OFF of the Kindle and onto your PC and read it from your PC? I want to have a backup on my home computer.

A Kindle has 256 MB of flash memory, plus whatever SD card the user installs. If that is enough memory to serve as a backup for your computer, a thumb drive could do the same job for much less.

I love the idea of the Kindle, don't get me wrong, but it probably won't do for backing stuff up.

Larry Barton

As an educator, I am intrigued by the possibility of using e-books to replace standard textbooks in the classroom. I have been ever since the first e-book readers were introduced back in the early '90s. The idea of unburdening student backs and eliminating locker congestion sends shivers of pure joy up my spine! But $400 is a stiff price to pay for this possibility, especially since textbooks from Amazon will probably be just as expensive as the print equivalents, namely, more expensive than any other print media. Textbook publications provide the widest margin of profit available in the publishing world. And, as your review points out, graphics and illustrations do not fare well on the Kindle. I would love to see development lean toward a larger screen with color potential, the ability to display PDF documents, easy import of personal content, and other useful features for making e-textbooks a reality, alongside some of the great features the Kindle is offering. Like the Hiebook reader that died a marketing death after about a year of sales, the screen should be able to rotate its display, but with e-ink this may not be feasible. It would be great to sit in on the planning and designing of one of these!

Andy

I was quite interested in this. The purchase price is a bit steep. Once I saw the high price of the books and that they were infected with DRM I knew I wouldn't be getting one. $10 for an electronic book? I'll take a physical book I can lend to others any day.

Jim Treacher

What if you can't find a physical copy of the book you want at a price you're willing to pay? I've spent so much time tracking down used copies of out-of-print books, and there are some title by some authors that I'd gladly pay $5-10 to be able to read right this second. That's what sells it for me.

Case Larsen

My use of magazines, periodicals and blogs is to clip the interesting articles and throw the rest away. To echo a previous question, have you found it possible to get content (i.e. clippings) off the kindle on to the PC?

One thing about "owning" a paper version of a magazine or newspaper is being able to clip the article for archival.

Christian Cantrell

Case,

You can "clip" content and archive it on the Kindle. You can also get at that clipped content by connecting your Kindle to your computer. I don't know if it's readable, though. I suspect it's not since that would be an easy way around the DRM. (Unfortunately my Kindle is packed for a trip I'm taking in the morning, so I can't verify -- I'll check soon.)

You're really meant to interact with Kindle content only through the Kindle, just like you're meant to interact with physical media only through the paper on which it's printed. You can therefore clip and annotate all you want, but you have to use the Kindle to get at it.

Christian

Joe Wallace

Just a note about "clipped" content. The Kindle saves the clippings in .TXT format, so when they are downloaded to your PC they are easily readable, printable, or whatever.

In fact, ALL your bookmarks, annotations, highlights, and whole pages of clippings are all in the "My Clippings" file.

Joe Wallace

One more thing you may not know about Kindle: Up to six Kindles can share the content from one Amazon.com account. A family could easily have one account, and download the content onto separate readers for each family member.

Tony Lovasco

"It can certainly be better, but it could also most certainly be worse. Books could timeout. Content could "deactivate" after a certain number of views..."

Making the argument that a particular implimentation of DRM is acceptable because "it could be worse" is like saying that someone who murders their wife is still a "good enough" person, because after all he could have murdered his entire family, but decided to just kill the wife.

DRM is always unacceptable. Period. When you buy a product, you OWN it. Meaning you have the right to use it how you see fit. That doesn't give you the right to make copies to redistribute, but you most certainly should be able to use it as you please without asking for permission first.

If I buy a physical book at the bookstore, and was told by the publisher that I was only allowed to read it within my home, and never take it outside, everyone would agree that's insane. Yet when someone sells an e-book with DRM, that's essentially what they're telling you -- you can only read this when and where we say you can.

The Kindle had quite a bit of potential -- if it would read books in standard, non-DRM ridden formats like unencrypted PDF, it would be useful. Moreover, all content should be stored on the device itself, so you don't have to trust Amazon to support the device forever in order to use it and read your content. Sure, you can use the memory expansion for this, but with DRM and authentication schemes in play, the user can never trust their content to such a device.

I'm with the Free Software Foundation on this one: Amazon's Kindle is a "swindle"...

Orso

man, i really WANT this to succeed. i've been a fan and customer of amazon since the early days. the lack info about mac compatibility has me regretfully putting this in the "no, not yet" pile, though. maybe the 2.0 will be the one i want.

Paul

Has bought to itself Amazon Kindle, long changed, but after reading reviews was solved and I do not regret. Has come across a site where reviews on Amazon Kindle are collected.
http://reeed.ru/en.html
Can to whom it is useful.

Nick

Put the newspaper underneath the wood and the paperback books. Light it with a lighter and watch it catch on fire! That in essence describes the Kindle and the future of the publishing industry.

A good movie to watch is Farenheight 411

Libraries should offer free digital books which can be downloaded on the Kindle!

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