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mrhallodri

hey, nice comparison. have you tested the topre realforce and the happy hacking keyboard yet?

Kehool

my gosh your reasons as to why mechanical keyboards are better than rubber domes are such a load of bullcrap
the only point with even the slightest hint of relevance is the last and even then .. all materials deteriote with use.. yes even steel springs ;)

it's mostly a thing of preference
maybe try to review a little less biased next time

but if you want to spread half knowledge around the internet about people magically being able to type faster on mechanical keyboards or how there is no feedback when writing with a rubberdome*
well be my guest.. fortunately so far at least no one seems to have considered your article worth a comment

well then.. happy first comment day ;) (oh btw: it's such a great comment it even has a footnote :D)

*(really? i thought my finger suddenly stopping in its downward movement would be a pretty damn good feedback.. the best there is actually.. oh and do i have to mention that the distance the finger has to travel on rubber dome keyboards is actually smaller than that of mechanical keyboards? you can say "half way" all you want but if the "whole way" on a mechanical keyboard is equivalent to 2-3 times the whole way on a rubber dome "half way" isn't going to help you jack)

Kehool

well looks like i missed a comment
my bad
happy 2nd comment day then ;)

rob

awesome roundup. i love my das pro. don't love the price but you get what you pay for.

Jim Garrod

My wife can type faster on an old mechanical typewriter than she has been able to on any computer keyboard she has used to date. She recently demonstrated this to a friend, who was amazed. So there!

bigec2002

I just ordered a Unicomp Space Saver M because I'm getting carpal tunnel using the "hard" keyboards that come with modern computers today. Good review! Thanks.

Ali

Originally yes. But I'm too lazy to do my best and debate this rbpolem in English. Bottom line is that ps/2 keyboards are initialized even before the display, so you should try and use ps2 if you're running your pc for the first time and aren't capable of installing the drivers for an usb keyboards (that's why I always keep a ps/2 keyboard in the house no matter how ugly it is or how many keys it's missing)

David

I have owned both a Unicomp and a Das Keyboard for about a month. I use the Das Keyboard at home and the Unicomp at work. Both of these keyboards suit my needs admirably.

I replaced the keys on the Das Keyboard with a WASD custom set because I use US International stickers and black keys did not suit my preferences. During that change, I installed o-rings on every key. The keys will not bottom out due to the o-rings. It has a nice feel with them installed.

I changed the color of just a few of the keys on the Unicomp to compliment the US International stickers that I use. When I installed those stickers I discovered that the stickers are actually cut to fit an IBM keyboard exactly. That was a nice surprise.

After a month of using them both, I will say that I prefer the Das Keyboard over the Unicomp. I do not mean that I dislike the Unicomp, but the Das Keyboard is much nicer to type on. I chose the Unicomp because I would not expect it to get stolen from work like I would the Das Keyboard.

I have seen comparisons of a Cherry Blue switch to an old IBM Selectric typewriter. Since I learned to type on a 1960's model Selectric, I can confirm that statement. Thankfully, it doesn't have that noisy ball connected to it.

I recommend both of these keyboards, but as I said, I prefer the Das Keyboard. It is really just a matter of degrees. They are both far better than a standard membrane keyboard.

Cade

Thank you for your review. After reading Kehool's comments, I feel I must comment and supply a reality check to his/her apparent short-sighted bias against mechanical-type keyboards. Don't get me wrong, if you prefer a mechanical keyboard ... then fine. If you prefer a non-mechanical keyboard ... then fine. However, trashing a theme (in this case mechanical keyboard technology) without adequate clarity in logic/evidence is not fine.

The "key press life" for a non-mechanical keyboard can range from 1 to 5 million key-presses and for a mechanical keyboard it is at the level of 50 million key presses. It is not surprising for costly switch-based technology to severely outperform cheap membrane-based technology. So, in the context of longevity, the mechanical keyboards are much superior while still being at a decent price point. Steel springs will not deteriorate since they are designed to operate within their elastic (not plastic) range of their stress-strain response, especially in the ambient temperature environments matching computing environments.
I have been designing/implementing software code from 1980's to now (16/32-bit DOS, WinNT, Win2000, Linux, Solaris, MacOSX) and while a type-M type IBM mechanical keyboard has had fully functioning lively feeling keys for over 20 years, I have encountered differently-branded non-mechanical keyboards that lost functionality in one or more keys in addition to the "dead"/non-organic feeling that non-mechanical keyboards can impart. Individual keys can be resurrected in a mechanical keyboards since the switches are discrete; just replace the problematic switch after those tens of millions of key presses. This is not possible for a non-mechanical keyboard due to the non-discrete nature of the membrane structure.

Of course there is "feedback" from a non-mechanical keyboard but the far inferior structure/technology of a rubber membrane, compared with the advanced switching of a mechanical keyboard, makes the non-mechanical keyboard impart a dead/inorganic type response when compared with what a mechanical keyboard can offer. It's all about the physics embedded in the keyboard.

I prefer the click sound from the Cherry MX blue switch since I feel it adds to the "organic" feel of the mechanical keyboard. It gives an audible cue whilst typing and non-mechanical keyboards do not offer this effect; the latter are too "quiet", at least for me.


Patrick M. Tracy`

Thanks a lot for putting this review up. I especially enjoyed being able to hear the different keyboards in the videos, as I didn't have a good remembrance of the "M" keyboard's sound, or the sound of the ALPS style switches.

I became tired of the poor keyboard quality I was seeing from the modern computers, and I finally got a DasKeyboard about a year ago. From the first time I took it out of the box and hooked it up, I found that there was suddenly a smile on my face. The feel, typing dynamics, and sound of the MX Blue switches is just magical. When it came time for me to get a keyboard for a shared work environment, though, I went with the DasKeyboard with the Brown switches. While not silent, they're not destructively loud. I think that the Brown switches are equally as adroit as partners in the typing process as the Blues, and I find that I never get any sense of fatigue through the day, even when I'm typing for hours at a time.

Recently, I decided to try the MX Black keys, and I have found them to be quite good, better for straight typing than most people would indicate. I am a forceful typist, though, so having a higher resistance is not an issue. I'm currently typing this on a CMStorm Quickfire from Coolermaster. For the money, it's a very solid keyboard, features removable/changeable cord routing, and is ten key-less. I find that it works great with a laptop, as it is the same width as a 15.6" model.

I'm looking forward to trying to get a buckling spring keyboard. It is too bad that the review indicated that the Unicomp models were not as high quality as most of the other mechanicals around.

Again, thanks for the videos. Very useful information.

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